Monday, January 18, 2010

FAKE Gandhi postmark cancel from Germany on 2nd October 2009 ???

Recently I noticed on ebay that there is one more postmark cancel by Germany on October 2nd 2009 on Gandhi's 140th birthday to celebrate United Nations International Non-Violence Day. Following is the postmark cancel.




I did some research on German Post website which is
http://www.deutschepost.de/dpag?xmlFile=828 & also I contacted them by email and got reply from them(email copy is attached). Also I contacted some local German Philatelist from whom I bought Gandhi related material and according to them they are not aware of this postmark cancellation.

This is amazing as GANDHI philately material is one of the most popular and searched on internet auction sites as well as in stamp shows noone has any idea about this postmark cancellation. How this is possible that no stamp collector/dealer from Germany has no idea.!!

My research indicates that following is authenticated philatelic material issued on October 2nd 2009.

1) United Nations:- $1 Gandhi stamp with FDC & Souvenir card
2) India :- 25 Rupees Gandhi stamp & FDC.
3) Croatia :- Gandhi Postmark Cancel.

So now my questions is what is this German GANDHI postmark cancellation?

Is it FAKE? (Read email from German Postal Service)

Unless I don't get sufficient proof I think it is.

Also above cover and other covers selling has postal barcode. This does not mean that this is not fake. We are now in modern world where everything is easy and quickly done using computer and printer so just don't blindly think that this is real.
Postal barcode can be printed on cover using Microsoft word !! and also using special software. Please read following you will get idea.
For USPS:-

http://blog.qualifiedaddress.com/2009/12/how-to-print-barcodes-in-microsoft-word.html
For German (Deutsche) Post:-

http://www.satoeurope.com/en/industry/post/postal_Deutsche_post.html

http://www.bytescout.com/bytescoutbarcodesdk_sample_deutsche_post_leitcode.html

If someone has any proof please let us know so we can update this.

Thanks

Ketankumar Patel.
My First year experience in Gandhi Philately.
My 100th blog post.
Gandhi Stamp Collecting is SCAM. My 3 year experience tell me Yes!!



I got 2 reply from different department of Deutschepost and as per them this are not postmark from German Postal Service. Read following emails and let me know if any question about email.



Update on 3/10/2011

Genuine/Real postmark cancellation from German Post related to India was issued on 2/12/2011 for Indipex 2011 stamp exhibition in New Delhi. Check following and make see the difference. (You can see the POSTHORNS on both side of town name BONN!!)


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Premium-Service-Philatelie@deutschepost.de
Date: Jan 22, 2010 4:47 AM
Subject: Your inquiry
To: kxxx@gmail.com

Dear Mr. Patel,

Thank you for your inquiry.
Deutsche Post AG did not issue any postmark from Ghandi`s birthday.




Kind regards
Jutta Frimberger
Premium Service Philatelie

Deutsche Post AG
Niederlassung Philatelie
Franz-Zebisch-Str. 15
92637 Weiden

3632 Junior Assistent Premium
Tel.: 0180 3 245442



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sonder-Werbestempel@deutschepost.de
Date: Feb 1, 2010 6:31 AM
Subject: AW: Gandhi postmark handstamp on October 2nd 2009 from Winnenden, Germany,
To: kxxx@gmail.com


Dear Mr. Patel,

Thank you for your require.

The postmark is not a postmark from the German Post. You can recognize this, because there are no posthorns on it.

I am sorry, the person who has created the postmark is unknown.

Kind regards

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Anna Girbert

Deutsche Post AG
Niederlassung Philatelie
Stempelvertrieb
Franz-Zebisch-Str. 15
92637 Weiden
Tel: 0961 - 3818 3636
Fax: 01805 - 24 68 76
e-mail: Anna.Girbert@DeutschePost.de
e-mail: Sonder-Werbestempel@DeutschePost.de
Webseite: http://philatelie.deutschepost.de/philatelie/




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Also if you see there is no POSTHORNS on this cancel. This posthorns are small design on both sides around the name of the city on the cancel.

You can see this posthorns at following link on German postal service.


http://philatelie.deutschepost.de/philatelie/stempel/stempel_pew.jhtml?id=cat180029&navAction=jump

http://philatelie.deutschepost.de/philatelie/stempel/sonderstempel.jhtml?id=cat180029&navAction=jump

Following postmark cancel is genuine which has 2 posthorns on both sides of the name of city (Barnstorf) where as Gandhi postmark cancel that is missing(maker of this Gandhi postmark cancel did not notice this!!)





******** Also read about frogeries in German Postmark Cancel **********
While researching on this German Cancel I found very interesting material related to Germany postmark handstamp forgery.
It is very important to read before you buy any Gandhi related material from Germany including this as well as other FFC available from that country.
http://www.filatelia.fi/forgeries/blum.html





Following link will display more than 650 FAKE postmark handstamp. You can see by clicking following link and than choose the first alphabet of German city.
http://www.phila-kompass.de/index.php?id=73&no_cache=1&tx_kbsystem_pi1[showUid]=90

3 comments:

  1. As per 2 emails from German Postal Service, my assumption about this German Gandhi International Non-Violence day postmark cancel is FAKE as this emails proves it.

    Also if you see their is no POSTHORNS on this cancel. This posthorns are small design on both sides around the name of the city on the cancel.

    You can see this posthorns at following link on German postal service.

    http://philatelie.deutschepost.de/philatelie/stempel/stempel_pew.jhtml?id=cat180029&navAction=jump

    http://philatelie.deutschepost.de/philatelie/stempel/sonderstempel.jhtml?id=cat180029&navAction=jump

    Let me know if you don't understand this posthorns.

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  2. Hello,

    I also want to bring everyone attention that barcode on the cover can be printed on computer using Microsoft Word or by special software available.

    So never consider that having barcode on cover is postally used. This is also like creating a rubber stamp.!!

    Following are the links. ( I am also adding this in above blog post)

    http://blog.qualifiedaddress.com/2009/12/how-to-print-barcodes-in-microsoft-word.html

    http://www.satoeurope.com/en/industry/post/postal_Deutsche_post.html


    So now we have to know what is real and what is fake also in commerically used cover.

    You just cannot think that this cover has barcode so it is real.

    Thanks
    KP
    2/16/10

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  3. Hello,

    This is now also mentioned in stampsofindia newsletter.

    http://stampsofindia.com/newssite/download/423.pdf

    Thanks

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